Discussion:
Icons
Andrew Parsloe
2011-07-03 23:28:01 UTC
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I've just gone to put a footnote in a letter I'm writing and went and
clicked on the icon labelled \foo. That's the first time I've mistaken
\foo for footnote but perhaps \bah or some other three letters would be
better? That made me wonder how people are getting on with the new icon
set of LyX 2.0.

My middle-sixties eyes have had problems with two other groupings of icons:

(1) The open-save-print group: in each case there's a white
square/rectangle above a darker square/rectangle. In the old (classic)
icon set, the icons for open and print are on the diagonal. Could that
be done here to make a clearer distinction?

(2) The emphasis-noun-apply last group: in each case the major part of
the icon is the letter A with a smaller distinguishing part. Perhaps
that should be reversed -- the distinguishing part enlarged and the A
reduced?

Andrew Parsloe
Paul A. Rubin
2011-07-04 02:34:45 UTC
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My just-turned-60 eyes sympathize with yours, but I've learned to hover over an
icon and read the tool tip until I start recognizing the bugger.

Speaking of icons, is it just me, or does the insert-a-citation icon look as if
it should be the insert-a-bookmark icon?

Paul
Guenter Milde
2011-07-04 04:52:23 UTC
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Post by Andrew Parsloe
(1) The open-save-print group: in each case there's a white
square/rectangle above a darker square/rectangle. In the old (classic)
icon set, the icons for open and print are on the diagonal. Could that
be done here to make a clearer distinction?
(2) The emphasis-noun-apply last group: in each case the major part of
the icon is the letter A with a smaller distinguishing part. Perhaps
that should be reversed -- the distinguishing part enlarged and the A
reduced?
I agree that the icons should be distinctive even at first glace -- not only
for older eyes but also for small screens.

As a quick workaround, you can customize LyX to use the classic iconset.

Günter
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2011-07-05 22:04:37 UTC
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I had just discovered that-- are there icons that will not be shown if I
use the CLASSIC set?
Post by Guenter Milde
Post by Andrew Parsloe
(1) The open-save-print group: in each case there's a white
square/rectangle above a darker square/rectangle. In the old (classic)
icon set, the icons for open and print are on the diagonal. Could that
be done here to make a clearer distinction?
(2) The emphasis-noun-apply last group: in each case the major part of
the icon is the letter A with a smaller distinguishing part. Perhaps
that should be reversed -- the distinguishing part enlarged and the A
reduced?
I agree that the icons should be distinctive even at first glace -- not only
for older eyes but also for small screens.
As a quick workaround, you can customize LyX to use the classic iconset.
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Marcelo Acuña
2011-07-07 22:48:41 UTC
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Post by Andrew Parsloe
Post by Andrew Parsloe
(1) The open-save-print group: in each case there's a
white
Post by Andrew Parsloe
square/rectangle above a darker square/rectangle. In
the old (classic)
Post by Andrew Parsloe
icon set, the icons for open and print are on the
diagonal. Could that
Post by Andrew Parsloe
be done here to make a clearer distinction?
(2) The emphasis-noun-apply last group: in each case
the major part of
Post by Andrew Parsloe
the icon is the letter A with a smaller distinguishing
part. Perhaps
Post by Andrew Parsloe
that should be reversed -- the distinguishing part
enlarged and the A
Post by Andrew Parsloe
reduced?
I agree that the icons should be distinctive even at first
glace -- not only
for older eyes but also for small screens.
My problem is that big icons are still too small for my eyes.
Marcelo
Guenter Milde
2011-07-08 07:32:13 UTC
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Post by Marcelo Acuña
Post by Guenter Milde
Post by Andrew Parsloe
(1) The open-save-print group: in each case there's a white
square/rectangle above a darker square/rectangle. In the old (classic)
icon set, the icons for open and print are on the diagonal. Could that
be done here to make a clearer distinction?
(2) The emphasis-noun-apply last group: in each case the major part
of the icon is the letter A with a smaller distinguishing part.
Perhaps that should be reversed -- the distinguishing part enlarged
and the A reduced?
I agree that the icons should be distinctive even at first
glace -- not only
for older eyes but also for small screens.
My problem is that big icons are still too small for my eyes.
Would your problem be solved with more distinctive icons at the current
size, do you require icons bigger than available now, or both.

The new icons are (as far as I remember) (mostly) taken from
OpenOffice/LibreOffice. Having the same set of icons for common tasks in
different programs should also help recognization.

OpenOffice has a number of icon styles. Could you try whether there is an
icon style in OpenOffice that suits your needs? Or maybe another set of
Gnome/KDE/Gtk icons? Maybe LyX could make use of this wide choice too.

Günter
Marcelo Acuña
2011-07-08 13:09:50 UTC
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Post by Guenter Milde
Post by Marcelo Acuña
Post by Guenter Milde
I agree that the icons should be distinctive even at first
glace -- not only
for older eyes but also for small screens.
My problem is that big icons are still too small for my eyes.
Would your problem be solved with more distinctive
icons at the current
size, do you require icons bigger than available
now, or both.
The current style of icons it is particularly difficult to see for me.
Anyway, still with the previous style of icons, they are too small for me and it takes effort to me to distinguish its function.

I am going to see the options of oo that You say.


Marcelo


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